Saturday, August 1, 2009

coloured contrails - red and blue and whatnot

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How do they make the colorful contrails at Aerobatic Shows?

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They spray something like diesel-oil into the host exhaust and add a dye!

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Dear Sir!,

Thank you for your enquiry through our Web Site regarding generation of Coloured Smokes in Aerobatic Aircraft.

I can confirm that our products are capable of providing coloured smoke with Model aircraft, on condition that the Jet Eflux temperature is adequate and the flow rate of smoking liquids to provide sufficiently dense a colour, however from general experience I also know that a number of Turbine engines run in R/C planes run at a dramatically lower temperatures full scale jet engines.

I attach an information sheet aimed at full scale users which I am sure you can adapt with consideration to the scale you are working in.

Also,
It is our experience with the few Remote Control Aerobatic teams that have sucessfully smoked colours, that the consumption of dyes is rather low, certainly below our new commercial limits.

Please consider that you also need a "smoke base" i.e. the white smoke component, first.
I suggest evaluation of Automotive Diesel, or Heating Oil, or a light Spindle Oil (contact your local Oil Companies)
As an alternative you should review the usage of "Bio-Diesel" i.e. the Methyl Ester of Rapeseed Oil.
Once you have a stable white smoke, then commence work on a coloured system.

I would propose that you seriously consider the purchase of the following dyes from our a company who repacks Rohm and Haas Dyes - Keystone Europe in the United Kingdom in 1 litre quantities:

Automate Red IKHF - Non- Hazardous for Transport
Automate Yellow HF - Non-Hazardous for Transport

If you make your evaluation on the Red or Yellow, (For which the freight cost will be very low due to non-hazardous for transport ratings ), then if succesful I then suggest you move onto the Blue, which due to being a slightly higher hazard product (Similar hazard to Diesel) then the most expensive product for transport goes only when you are sure it works

Automate Blue 8AHF - Marine Pollutant and Hazardous for Transport

If you make your evaluation on the Red or Yellow, (For which the freight cost will be very low due to non-hazardous for transport ratings )

If you wish to purchase drums of 100 Kilograms, please do not hesitate to contact us

Yours faithfully

IF, with your existing smoke pipe arrangement you find that the coloured smoke appears "thin" and in ground testing , you find a significant amount of the dye is beng "sprayed" onto the ground / behind the craft, then I suggest evaluating chaning the smoke pipe alignment, such that the pipe exit is 45 degrees from the jet eflux. the experiment with other angles - i.e 30 degrees though to 60 degrees. These angles have been found optimal in Military display teams.
All military teams utlise one compartment for each pre-mixed smoking liquid - i.e. the Red Arrows, PAF etc all have 3 tanks - 1 for the Red Premix, 1 for White and 1 for Blue Premix.

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You may also choose to review splitting the single pipe into two exits, in order to increase the dispersion of the smoking liquid into the jet eflux. (the red arrows use three, contrary to the popular belief that each pipe is for a single colour, this is incorrect, all three smoke liquids exit from all three pipes to maximise dispersion of the dye. But of course this is really a step to take only if you need to!

Temperatures of 500 C sound excellent for colour generation.

If you feel that you would wish to review purchase of 109 kilogram drums then please let us know

Many thanks

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Additional notes for you

the main reasons I recommend Automate Red IKHF and / or Automate Yellow HF to you are as follows:-

VERY low hazard solvent. easy / cheap / simple to transport / Not too agressive toward plastics.

Automate Red BD90 is roughly the same price as Automate Red IKHF and stronger (approx ratio is 90/55), but it is in Xylene Solvent.
This is flammable - so transporting the liquid is more costly as much more paperwork is required. You need to be a little more careful in handling the dye (no sparks etc whilst the lid is open)
Xylene is also MUCH more aggressive in dissolving plastics than the Hydrotreated Napthenic Solvent in the Red IKHF and the Yellow HF

Hope that this additional information help you.

In terms of the ratio of Dye to Diesel, this can be varied.


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The Red Arrows utlise 1 part dye to 8 parts diesel during training
Then 1 part dye to 2 parts diesel toward the end of training
1 part dye to 1 part diesel for normal use
2 parts dye to 1 part diesel for special events
3 parts dye to 1 part diesel for extra special occasions

PAF
Variable from 3 parts dye to 2 parts diesel , up to 9 parts dye, 1 part diesel

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These teams obviously use custom manufactured variants of the dyes we recommend to yourself, but the physical active colourants are the same.

thanks

Warren Smith
Account Manager, Organic Specialties
Process Chemicals Group
Rohm and Haas (UK) Ltd
Lennig House, 2 Mason's Avenue , CROYDON, CR9 3NB United Kingdom
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For USA based companies requiring small (1 kilogram) volumes of dye please contact Keystone Aniline in Chicago:-

www.dyes.com

Please specify the Rohm and Haas products by name to Keystone Aniline

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